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	<title>Comments on: Rud and Ann Turnbull: Disability community, beware of Palin</title>
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		<title>By: Beth</title>
		<link>http://www.patriciaebauer.com/2008/09/15/guest-commentary-turnbulls-3199/comment-page-1/#comment-2665</link>
		<dc:creator>Beth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 19:14:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It saddens me that lies and misconceptions are spreading like wildfire and so many people are having their opinion of Palin tainted by these lies. I want to make it very very clear that Palin did NOT cut special needs funding, as has been reported by many internet sources and even CNN&#039;s O&#039;Brien. In fact, Palin increased special needs funding every year that she was in office. And she has signed legislation that will triple the per-student funding of intensive-needs students. It&#039;s important that we do our own fact checking before we believe what we&#039;re told and, worse, spread the information as if it&#039;s truth. 
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/sliming_palin.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/sliming_palin.html&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It saddens me that lies and misconceptions are spreading like wildfire and so many people are having their opinion of Palin tainted by these lies. I want to make it very very clear that Palin did NOT cut special needs funding, as has been reported by many internet sources and even CNN&#8217;s O&#8217;Brien. In fact, Palin increased special needs funding every year that she was in office. And she has signed legislation that will triple the per-student funding of intensive-needs students. It&#8217;s important that we do our own fact checking before we believe what we&#8217;re told and, worse, spread the information as if it&#8217;s truth.<br />
<a href="http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/sliming_palin.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/sliming_palin.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: jen</title>
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		<dc:creator>jen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 07:01:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>
This is the statement that Obama released after McCain picked Palin to be his VP:
&quot;Today, John McCain put the former mayor of a town of 9,000 with zero foreign policy experience a heartbeat away from the presidency.&quot;

Any remarks Gov. Palin made about community organizers was directed at Obama for this marginalization of her experience. I really don&#039;t understand why it is okay for everyone to throw stones at this woman but if she dares to respond somehow she is in the wrong. 

This has been an eye opening year for me. First I realized that there is still overwhelming sexism in this country. I learned that the democrats are only for the equal rights of those that share there demented views. And most disturbing of all, I&#039;ve learned that the disabled community no longer stands together either. No matter whether you agree with Sarah Palin&#039;s political views or not, she is still the mother of a disabled child. She is still &quot;one of us.&quot;

I could never have guessed that this community would treat this woman so badly. I am ashamed.

And just as a side note: John McCain is running for President, not Sarah Palin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the statement that Obama released after McCain picked Palin to be his VP:<br />
&#8220;Today, John McCain put the former mayor of a town of 9,000 with zero foreign policy experience a heartbeat away from the presidency.&#8221;</p>
<p>Any remarks Gov. Palin made about community organizers was directed at Obama for this marginalization of her experience. I really don&#8217;t understand why it is okay for everyone to throw stones at this woman but if she dares to respond somehow she is in the wrong. </p>
<p>This has been an eye opening year for me. First I realized that there is still overwhelming sexism in this country. I learned that the democrats are only for the equal rights of those that share there demented views. And most disturbing of all, I&#8217;ve learned that the disabled community no longer stands together either. No matter whether you agree with Sarah Palin&#8217;s political views or not, she is still the mother of a disabled child. She is still &#8220;one of us.&#8221;</p>
<p>I could never have guessed that this community would treat this woman so badly. I am ashamed.</p>
<p>And just as a side note: John McCain is running for President, not Sarah Palin.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 05:06:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow!  Patricia, is this an endorsement for Obama? Being an ex Chicagoan, I am very concerned about his credentials. Any one who knows anything about Chicago politics, knows that nobody gets to the top, without pandering to someone. It is frightening to think that he got there so quick, and more frightening to think he did on his community service record. Ask his friend Oprah, how stuff gets done in Chicago.Oh, maybe that is who he knows. Yuck.  Sorry, I find it impossible to believe that he did it by helping people with disabilities. Rud and Ann, with all due respect, your assessment is laden with agenda. I am glad you like your Democrat party. I am just not sure your leader, is well..... a leader. Sorry. We will just have to agree to disagree.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow!  Patricia, is this an endorsement for Obama? Being an ex Chicagoan, I am very concerned about his credentials. Any one who knows anything about Chicago politics, knows that nobody gets to the top, without pandering to someone. It is frightening to think that he got there so quick, and more frightening to think he did on his community service record. Ask his friend Oprah, how stuff gets done in Chicago.Oh, maybe that is who he knows. Yuck.  Sorry, I find it impossible to believe that he did it by helping people with disabilities. Rud and Ann, with all due respect, your assessment is laden with agenda. I am glad you like your Democrat party. I am just not sure your leader, is well&#8230;.. a leader. Sorry. We will just have to agree to disagree.</p>
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		<title>By: Kathy Ratkiewicz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathy Ratkiewicz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 20:32:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I, too, am troubled by Obama&#039;s lack of experience. He promises a lot of things, but based on his past record, there is no guarantee that he will actually follow through.

And, please. The community organizer comment was a joke. Do you honestly think that a community organizer has as much responsibility as a mayor? I am a community organizer, and I sure don&#039;t think so.

I also think that Palin is damned if she does and damned if she doesn&#039;t in many situations. If she didn&#039;t mention people w/disabilities in her speech, she would have been faulted for that. She did, and is accused of mentioning it only for political gain instead of giving her the benefit of the doubt that she is sincere. If she leaves Trig home, she would be accused of being ashamed of him and/or neglecting him while she campaigns. Bring him with her, and he is a political prop.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I, too, am troubled by Obama&#8217;s lack of experience. He promises a lot of things, but based on his past record, there is no guarantee that he will actually follow through.</p>
<p>And, please. The community organizer comment was a joke. Do you honestly think that a community organizer has as much responsibility as a mayor? I am a community organizer, and I sure don&#8217;t think so.</p>
<p>I also think that Palin is damned if she does and damned if she doesn&#8217;t in many situations. If she didn&#8217;t mention people w/disabilities in her speech, she would have been faulted for that. She did, and is accused of mentioning it only for political gain instead of giving her the benefit of the doubt that she is sincere. If she leaves Trig home, she would be accused of being ashamed of him and/or neglecting him while she campaigns. Bring him with her, and he is a political prop.</p>
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		<title>By: Becky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Becky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 18:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Sara Szwarc who reminds us that Palin was reading from a script and was responding to attacks on her experience ... in the three days since being announced, she was already being torn down for having so little experience, and her statements were designed to contrast her to Obama, not necessarily to run down community organizers. From what I have read of community organizing in Chicago, in contrast to someone&#039;s life work on the Beach Center, is that it is a very key way to work toward acceptance at Harvard law school and also a great way to get inside the political establishment in Chicago. Cynical, perhaps, but true?

I am troubled by Obama&#039;s lack of executive experience, period. He may have a lot of great promises, but he failed to vote on many controversial issues during his time in government and I don&#039;t know how he will get things done when he is so far left of center. I can&#039;t imagine that our government will be able to fund his promises...if you listen to the plans on his website, he promises full funding of IDEA (a financial obligation that is, by itself, enormous) in addition to such an influx of money for so many federal programs that everyone should be happy, but how in the world will our government afford it?  I&#039;m just as skeptical of him as I am of her.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Sara Szwarc who reminds us that Palin was reading from a script and was responding to attacks on her experience &#8230; in the three days since being announced, she was already being torn down for having so little experience, and her statements were designed to contrast her to Obama, not necessarily to run down community organizers. From what I have read of community organizing in Chicago, in contrast to someone&#8217;s life work on the Beach Center, is that it is a very key way to work toward acceptance at Harvard law school and also a great way to get inside the political establishment in Chicago. Cynical, perhaps, but true?</p>
<p>I am troubled by Obama&#8217;s lack of executive experience, period. He may have a lot of great promises, but he failed to vote on many controversial issues during his time in government and I don&#8217;t know how he will get things done when he is so far left of center. I can&#8217;t imagine that our government will be able to fund his promises&#8230;if you listen to the plans on his website, he promises full funding of IDEA (a financial obligation that is, by itself, enormous) in addition to such an influx of money for so many federal programs that everyone should be happy, but how in the world will our government afford it?  I&#8217;m just as skeptical of him as I am of her.</p>
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		<title>By: Mary M.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 12:17:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who better to speak up for community organizers than the Turnbulls?  The Beach Center on Disability has been a pioneering effort to inform and shape public policy on disability issues.  When the Turnbulls speak we all should listen.  Thank you Patricia E. Bauer for giving them a megaphone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who better to speak up for community organizers than the Turnbulls?  The Beach Center on Disability has been a pioneering effort to inform and shape public policy on disability issues.  When the Turnbulls speak we all should listen.  Thank you Patricia E. Bauer for giving them a megaphone.</p>
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		<title>By: autismvox</title>
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		<dc:creator>autismvox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 05:41:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s also not being much noted that Gov. Palin is very new to being a special needs mother. 

It certainly took me a while just to say that I was such.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s also not being much noted that Gov. Palin is very new to being a special needs mother. </p>
<p>It certainly took me a while just to say that I was such.</p>
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		<title>By: Sara Szwarc</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sara Szwarc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 04:51:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent, and so true. But let&#039;s be clear about one thing: when Gov.Palin said she would be a &quot;friend and advocate&quot; in Washington, and when she disparaged &quot;community organizers,&quot; she was reading from a script. A script written by a former Bush speech writer.

These words were carefully crafted on the one hand to appeal to those of us in the disability community and make us wholeheartedly sanction her appearance on the national political scene, thinking of her as our &quot;voice&quot; in the halls of government; and on the other hand as a put down of Obama and an attempt to show that his experience actively serving those in need around him was less meaningful than her experience as Mayor and then Governor of Alaska.

Just having a baby with Down syndrome (Welcome to the World Trig!), doesn&#039;t make someone an &quot;advocate&quot; automatically. It&#039;s in seeing what is needed and what must be changed to better support our loved ones, and speaking out against injustice while pushing for reform that allows us to add &quot;advocate&quot; to our credentials.

I always hope for the best, but am unconvinced that Gov.Palin knows yet what it means to be a true advocate for her son; and that she would be ready to back up her scripted words to do what is right for our families.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent, and so true. But let&#8217;s be clear about one thing: when Gov.Palin said she would be a &#8220;friend and advocate&#8221; in Washington, and when she disparaged &#8220;community organizers,&#8221; she was reading from a script. A script written by a former Bush speech writer.</p>
<p>These words were carefully crafted on the one hand to appeal to those of us in the disability community and make us wholeheartedly sanction her appearance on the national political scene, thinking of her as our &#8220;voice&#8221; in the halls of government; and on the other hand as a put down of Obama and an attempt to show that his experience actively serving those in need around him was less meaningful than her experience as Mayor and then Governor of Alaska.</p>
<p>Just having a baby with Down syndrome (Welcome to the World Trig!), doesn&#8217;t make someone an &#8220;advocate&#8221; automatically. It&#8217;s in seeing what is needed and what must be changed to better support our loved ones, and speaking out against injustice while pushing for reform that allows us to add &#8220;advocate&#8221; to our credentials.</p>
<p>I always hope for the best, but am unconvinced that Gov.Palin knows yet what it means to be a true advocate for her son; and that she would be ready to back up her scripted words to do what is right for our families.</p>
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		<title>By: Mary</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 02:27:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Community Organizers?  She thinks you didn&#039;t have &quot;actual responsibilities.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Community Organizers?  She thinks you didn&#8217;t have &#8220;actual responsibilities.&#8221;</p>
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