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	<title>Comments on: Palin, disability and Down syndrome: Sept. 8, 2008</title>
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		<title>By: Jim Ward</title>
		<link>http://www.patriciaebauer.com/2008/09/08/palin-disability-sept-8-2008-3138/comment-page-1/#comment-2571</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Ward</dc:creator>
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		<description>Having a family member with a disability is no guarantee that a candidate will support a disability rights agenda. 
 
Some of the real questions are:
 
Will Governor Palin get Senator McCain to end his opposition to the Community Choice Act which will end the institutional bias in America&#039;s healthcare financing system and allow people with disabilities to live in their own homes and communities rather than isolated nursing homes and other institutions?
 
Will she, like Senator McCain, support judicial nominees to the Supreme Court and lower-level courts who have disregarded the intent of Congress and dramatically rolled back the civil rights protections of the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA), leaving millions of Americans with epilepsy, diabetes, mental illness, HIV-AIDS, and other disabilities unprotected?

Jim Ward
Founder and President
ADA Watch and the National Coalition for Disability Rights
Washington, DC</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having a family member with a disability is no guarantee that a candidate will support a disability rights agenda. </p>
<p>Some of the real questions are:</p>
<p>Will Governor Palin get Senator McCain to end his opposition to the Community Choice Act which will end the institutional bias in America&#8217;s healthcare financing system and allow people with disabilities to live in their own homes and communities rather than isolated nursing homes and other institutions?</p>
<p>Will she, like Senator McCain, support judicial nominees to the Supreme Court and lower-level courts who have disregarded the intent of Congress and dramatically rolled back the civil rights protections of the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA), leaving millions of Americans with epilepsy, diabetes, mental illness, HIV-AIDS, and other disabilities unprotected?</p>
<p>Jim Ward<br />
Founder and President<br />
ADA Watch and the National Coalition for Disability Rights<br />
Washington, DC</p>
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		<title>By: Renate</title>
		<link>http://www.patriciaebauer.com/2008/09/08/palin-disability-sept-8-2008-3138/comment-page-1/#comment-2568</link>
		<dc:creator>Renate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 01:17:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am one of the parents that fear the Down syndrome is on the leading edge of a eugenics movement. Unfortunately, Palin is not creating the wave of attention for Down syndrome in Canada, like it does in the USA. 

In Canada all pregnant women are offered government funded prenatal screening for Down syndrome. There has been no extra funding towards education, information or awareness. 
Screening is offered without informed consent and many women, (like Palin, who said she was &#039;devastated and shocked&#039;), are not prepared for the information revealed by testing. 

The &#039;official&#039; prevalence of Down syndrome in Canada, (still used by Health Canada and the Canadian Down Syndrome Society), is 1 in 800. This number is based on data collected between 1991-1999. Considering the revolution in prenatal screening technology that has taken place since 17 years ago, this number is hopelessly ancient, inaccurate and likely obscures a sad reality. A major health policy, affecting all pregnant women, is implemented, but the effects are not measured, sloppy? 

In the province of Nova Scotia births of babies with DS between 2001-2006 have plummeted with 60%, when compared to birth rate between 1997-1999.

The Canadian media and politicians continue to ignore the issue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am one of the parents that fear the Down syndrome is on the leading edge of a eugenics movement. Unfortunately, Palin is not creating the wave of attention for Down syndrome in Canada, like it does in the USA. </p>
<p>In Canada all pregnant women are offered government funded prenatal screening for Down syndrome. There has been no extra funding towards education, information or awareness.<br />
Screening is offered without informed consent and many women, (like Palin, who said she was &#8216;devastated and shocked&#8217;), are not prepared for the information revealed by testing. </p>
<p>The &#8216;official&#8217; prevalence of Down syndrome in Canada, (still used by Health Canada and the Canadian Down Syndrome Society), is 1 in 800. This number is based on data collected between 1991-1999. Considering the revolution in prenatal screening technology that has taken place since 17 years ago, this number is hopelessly ancient, inaccurate and likely obscures a sad reality. A major health policy, affecting all pregnant women, is implemented, but the effects are not measured, sloppy? </p>
<p>In the province of Nova Scotia births of babies with DS between 2001-2006 have plummeted with 60%, when compared to birth rate between 1997-1999.</p>
<p>The Canadian media and politicians continue to ignore the issue.</p>
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		<title>By: Renate</title>
		<link>http://www.patriciaebauer.com/2008/09/08/palin-disability-sept-8-2008-3138/comment-page-1/#comment-2567</link>
		<dc:creator>Renate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 00:29:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Halleluja, you said it Pamela. Let&#039;s forget about pro-life, pro-abortion and talk about pro-humane and address some real issues. Taking choices away does not create a society more embracing of (genetic) differences and supportive of families with special needs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Halleluja, you said it Pamela. Let&#8217;s forget about pro-life, pro-abortion and talk about pro-humane and address some real issues. Taking choices away does not create a society more embracing of (genetic) differences and supportive of families with special needs.</p>
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		<title>By: Pamela Ausburn</title>
		<link>http://www.patriciaebauer.com/2008/09/08/palin-disability-sept-8-2008-3138/comment-page-1/#comment-2563</link>
		<dc:creator>Pamela Ausburn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 20:40:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am sorry I missed Palin&#039;s speech.  I would have liked to hear her stance on this issue w/o reading about it online.

Something I did notice that all the talk is about children with Down Syndrome.  Somewhere in there, children with other disabilities has been forgotten.

This world is not about people with Down Syndrome. It is about all people (children and adults) with disabilities and their rights.

I have a daughter with disabilities. And the diagnosis?  Unknown!!!!!!!! People who have children with Down Syndrome are what I would say &quot;lucky&quot;. They at least have a diagnosis. With that diagnosis, they are more able to know what kind of services their child needs.

But, with a child whose disabilities are unknown, it&#039;s more of a challenge.  It is trial and error to find what will work to help them educationally, independently, cognitively, and physically.

As of yet, I have not read where Palin, attended functions to raise awareness of people with disabilities and helped raise money or changed policies to help these people and their families.

Saying you will do it and doing it is two different things.

Exactly what is she proposing to do to help the people and their families?  That is what I would like to know.

I will not vote for someone just because they have a child with Down Syndrome. Palin having a very young child with Down syndrome, does not make her a &quot;true&quot; advocate for people with disabilities. She does not have enough experience.

From experience, a person with a 2-month-old child with special needs does not qualify them to have a true understanding with the needs of all people with disabilities. It takes a person who has dealt with this for many years whether personal experience or in settings like schools, day care, therapy services, services for adults with disabilities, and other situations.

Daily I work with children who have special needs. I turned my degree around to be able to help my daughter and other families/children. Some of these parents are not advocates for their children who have disabilities. They go with what I say is &quot;the flow&quot;.

I have fought for years to get my daughter the services she needs.  I had to go out on my own and seek these services and make individuals, schools, etc. abide by Public Law 94-142 (IDEA).

I have learned a lot over the years of personal experience plus providing therapy services to children in schools, day care, and homes. I also help teach the parents what they can do to help their child, be an advocate for these families and let the parents/guardians know what services are out there for their child.

To end this comment: I would not have had an abortion if I knew of the disabilities my child would have. Her disabilities are nothing compared to what I have seen. I have seen children that are completely confined to their bed, that stay on oxygen and feeding tubes 24 hrs a day just to survive. These babies have a very slim chance to survive. 

I understand the &quot;right to life&quot;, but the question to all this is...........how much should we make a child suffer just for this advocacy &quot;right to life&quot;.

Have you ever been in these homes with these families who have a child who is hanging on by a thread and you never know from minute to minute how much time their child has left in this world.  Many people have to quit their jobs to stay home and have lost homes, vehicles, and other things just to take care of their child.

SO who are you to decide what some would/should do. Until you truly have to put yourself in that position, I do not think you would immediately respond with &quot;right to life&quot;.  I think you would have to go home and talk this out with family/friends/supporters to decide how much pain and suffering are you willing to put your child through and your family.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am sorry I missed Palin&#8217;s speech.  I would have liked to hear her stance on this issue w/o reading about it online.</p>
<p>Something I did notice that all the talk is about children with Down Syndrome.  Somewhere in there, children with other disabilities has been forgotten.</p>
<p>This world is not about people with Down Syndrome. It is about all people (children and adults) with disabilities and their rights.</p>
<p>I have a daughter with disabilities. And the diagnosis?  Unknown!!!!!!!! People who have children with Down Syndrome are what I would say &#8220;lucky&#8221;. They at least have a diagnosis. With that diagnosis, they are more able to know what kind of services their child needs.</p>
<p>But, with a child whose disabilities are unknown, it&#8217;s more of a challenge.  It is trial and error to find what will work to help them educationally, independently, cognitively, and physically.</p>
<p>As of yet, I have not read where Palin, attended functions to raise awareness of people with disabilities and helped raise money or changed policies to help these people and their families.</p>
<p>Saying you will do it and doing it is two different things.</p>
<p>Exactly what is she proposing to do to help the people and their families?  That is what I would like to know.</p>
<p>I will not vote for someone just because they have a child with Down Syndrome. Palin having a very young child with Down syndrome, does not make her a &#8220;true&#8221; advocate for people with disabilities. She does not have enough experience.</p>
<p>From experience, a person with a 2-month-old child with special needs does not qualify them to have a true understanding with the needs of all people with disabilities. It takes a person who has dealt with this for many years whether personal experience or in settings like schools, day care, therapy services, services for adults with disabilities, and other situations.</p>
<p>Daily I work with children who have special needs. I turned my degree around to be able to help my daughter and other families/children. Some of these parents are not advocates for their children who have disabilities. They go with what I say is &#8220;the flow&#8221;.</p>
<p>I have fought for years to get my daughter the services she needs.  I had to go out on my own and seek these services and make individuals, schools, etc. abide by Public Law 94-142 (IDEA).</p>
<p>I have learned a lot over the years of personal experience plus providing therapy services to children in schools, day care, and homes. I also help teach the parents what they can do to help their child, be an advocate for these families and let the parents/guardians know what services are out there for their child.</p>
<p>To end this comment: I would not have had an abortion if I knew of the disabilities my child would have. Her disabilities are nothing compared to what I have seen. I have seen children that are completely confined to their bed, that stay on oxygen and feeding tubes 24 hrs a day just to survive. These babies have a very slim chance to survive. </p>
<p>I understand the &#8220;right to life&#8221;, but the question to all this is&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..how much should we make a child suffer just for this advocacy &#8220;right to life&#8221;.</p>
<p>Have you ever been in these homes with these families who have a child who is hanging on by a thread and you never know from minute to minute how much time their child has left in this world.  Many people have to quit their jobs to stay home and have lost homes, vehicles, and other things just to take care of their child.</p>
<p>SO who are you to decide what some would/should do. Until you truly have to put yourself in that position, I do not think you would immediately respond with &#8220;right to life&#8221;.  I think you would have to go home and talk this out with family/friends/supporters to decide how much pain and suffering are you willing to put your child through and your family.</p>
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