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		<title>By: ForMyDaughter</title>
		<link>http://www.patriciaebauer.com/2008/08/13/thunder-coverage-2952/comment-page-1/#comment-2100</link>
		<dc:creator>ForMyDaughter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 14:10:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How about Ben Stiller? Anyone look at his track record? Something About Mary, Dodgeball anyone?  Just a few of the movies he is in that make fun of people with intellectual disabilities. Anyone notice a pattern here? Sorry, the &quot;in the context of the movie&quot; crap doesn&#039;t fly with me. He has a history of this behavior and attacking this group of people for a laugh. Is he going to defend these other movies with the same excuse? When is someone in the media going to call him out on this?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about Ben Stiller? Anyone look at his track record? Something About Mary, Dodgeball anyone?  Just a few of the movies he is in that make fun of people with intellectual disabilities. Anyone notice a pattern here? Sorry, the &#8220;in the context of the movie&#8221; crap doesn&#8217;t fly with me. He has a history of this behavior and attacking this group of people for a laugh. Is he going to defend these other movies with the same excuse? When is someone in the media going to call him out on this?</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 04:44:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I watched the Nightline episode tonight and frankly it was really just media hype for Ben Stiller and the movie.  I understand that before I had my daughter maybe I would have not been so offended.  But, what I do not understand are all of these actors unwillingness to even give it a second thought.  I understand it is not directed at our children, but don&#039;t they understand how it ultimately affects them?  Why would they not be willing to just think into that and possibly agree to spend a day or so with some of our families and see where we are coming from?  I think most of us understand what they were trying to do - can&#039;t they try and understand where we are coming from and the affects that this can have for many many years to come?

Lisa</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I watched the Nightline episode tonight and frankly it was really just media hype for Ben Stiller and the movie.  I understand that before I had my daughter maybe I would have not been so offended.  But, what I do not understand are all of these actors unwillingness to even give it a second thought.  I understand it is not directed at our children, but don&#8217;t they understand how it ultimately affects them?  Why would they not be willing to just think into that and possibly agree to spend a day or so with some of our families and see where we are coming from?  I think most of us understand what they were trying to do &#8211; can&#8217;t they try and understand where we are coming from and the affects that this can have for many many years to come?</p>
<p>Lisa</p>
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		<title>By: Nancy Iannone</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nancy Iannone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 21:04:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This movie was screened by reps from the NDSC, self-advocates, and many disability groups (although most who saw it were not permitted to see it until the morning of the day of the premiere.) Those who saw it thought it was much worse than what they anticipated from the now-pulled offensive promotional materials.  And Ben Stiller’s response to the offensive nature of the film is that they haven’t seen it?  Are we to add dishonesty to the list of offenses?

With all due respect to Chris Cuomo (at least he asked the question), Charlie Gibson never would have let Ben Stiller get away with that pathetic answer!  I want someone to ask him some tough questions, such as:

1) Would you see this movie with a group of parents who have kids with intellectual disabilities? 
2) Do you have any good friends with loved ones (not a second cousin or dead great-grandfather) who have an intellectual disability? 
3) Did any of your focus groups include families of those with intellectual disabilities? 
4) Why did you spend so much time trying to avoid offense on racial humor and none with regard to disability humor? 
5) Why were Tim Shriver and many other disability advocates not allowed to screen this film until the morning of the day it premiered?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This movie was screened by reps from the NDSC, self-advocates, and many disability groups (although most who saw it were not permitted to see it until the morning of the day of the premiere.) Those who saw it thought it was much worse than what they anticipated from the now-pulled offensive promotional materials.  And Ben Stiller’s response to the offensive nature of the film is that they haven’t seen it?  Are we to add dishonesty to the list of offenses?</p>
<p>With all due respect to Chris Cuomo (at least he asked the question), Charlie Gibson never would have let Ben Stiller get away with that pathetic answer!  I want someone to ask him some tough questions, such as:</p>
<p>1) Would you see this movie with a group of parents who have kids with intellectual disabilities?<br />
2) Do you have any good friends with loved ones (not a second cousin or dead great-grandfather) who have an intellectual disability?<br />
3) Did any of your focus groups include families of those with intellectual disabilities?<br />
4) Why did you spend so much time trying to avoid offense on racial humor and none with regard to disability humor?<br />
5) Why were Tim Shriver and many other disability advocates not allowed to screen this film until the morning of the day it premiered?</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 19:58:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t get it. The country was up in arms with Don Imus over a one-line remark. He lost his job over it. Yet, Hollywood, the self-proclaimed champions of intellectual thought, civility, and sensitivity puts out a multi-million dollar assault on the intellectually disabled and everyone runs to its defense? Should we expected pitchforks and lynch mobs next to rid the world of the unwanted &#039;retards&#039;? What has Ben Stiller ever done for you? These people act like he is their best friend. It&#039;s sick worship.

Stiller&#039;s response in the GMA interview really shows who the real imbecile is. He even makes a big part of our argument for us:

&quot;we screened the movie so many times and this didn’t come up until very late&quot;

The fact that no one said anything simply illustrates the antipathy for the disabled in this country. THIS IS WHAT IS BEING PROTESTED. No one cares because they think the intellectually disabled are retards who are too stupid to understand. They even go on to admit that they are making fun of actors (themselves)...who actually feel that way. Duh!! They continually try to use circular logic to weasel out of it. It doesn&#039;t work.

Maybe someone should give Stiller an IQ test...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t get it. The country was up in arms with Don Imus over a one-line remark. He lost his job over it. Yet, Hollywood, the self-proclaimed champions of intellectual thought, civility, and sensitivity puts out a multi-million dollar assault on the intellectually disabled and everyone runs to its defense? Should we expected pitchforks and lynch mobs next to rid the world of the unwanted &#8216;retards&#8217;? What has Ben Stiller ever done for you? These people act like he is their best friend. It&#8217;s sick worship.</p>
<p>Stiller&#8217;s response in the GMA interview really shows who the real imbecile is. He even makes a big part of our argument for us:</p>
<p>&#8220;we screened the movie so many times and this didn’t come up until very late&#8221;</p>
<p>The fact that no one said anything simply illustrates the antipathy for the disabled in this country. THIS IS WHAT IS BEING PROTESTED. No one cares because they think the intellectually disabled are retards who are too stupid to understand. They even go on to admit that they are making fun of actors (themselves)&#8230;who actually feel that way. Duh!! They continually try to use circular logic to weasel out of it. It doesn&#8217;t work.</p>
<p>Maybe someone should give Stiller an IQ test&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Glenn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Glenn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 16:18:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If we are going to condemn Tropic Thunder&#039;s use of the r-word we should also condemn the use of the word in the mediaandmayhem.com title &quot;Bravo, Dreamworks! What courage it must have taken to make fun of ‘r******&#039;! Let&#039;s be consistent!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If we are going to condemn Tropic Thunder&#8217;s use of the r-word we should also condemn the use of the word in the mediaandmayhem.com title &#8220;Bravo, Dreamworks! What courage it must have taken to make fun of ‘r******&#8217;! Let&#8217;s be consistent!</p>
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		<title>By: Laura</title>
		<link>http://www.patriciaebauer.com/2008/08/13/thunder-coverage-2952/comment-page-1/#comment-2037</link>
		<dc:creator>Laura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 16:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We&#039;re allowed to be upset and appalled over this photo:
http://sports.yahoo.com/olympics/beijing/basketball/news?slug=ro-spain081308&amp;prov=yhoo&amp;type=lgns

but not over Tropic Thunder&#039;s tasteless and discriminatory writing?

Though some in the picture had the same disrespectful lack of concern as Ben Stiller and Co. in their response:  &quot;It&#039;s just a picture, what&#039;s the problem.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;re allowed to be upset and appalled over this photo:<br />
<a href="http://sports.yahoo.com/olympics/beijing/basketball/news?slug=ro-spain081308&amp;prov=yhoo&amp;type=lgns" rel="nofollow">http://sports.yahoo.com/olympics/beijing/basketball/news?slug=ro-spain081308&amp;prov=yhoo&amp;type=lgns</a></p>
<p>but not over Tropic Thunder&#8217;s tasteless and discriminatory writing?</p>
<p>Though some in the picture had the same disrespectful lack of concern as Ben Stiller and Co. in their response:  &#8220;It&#8217;s just a picture, what&#8217;s the problem.&#8221;</p>
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